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Topic: Perfected Push/Pull |
methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-15-1999 01:19 PM
Step 1:....starting with your pills, crush them in a grinder, and put
powder into a large washed out gatorade jug. make sure you wash with
distilled water only. 1000 60mg pills, will yield 1 ounce of honey,
at a 50% return. Next, add distilled water to the powder, and
shake....let settle for a minute or two, and siphon off the water.
Repeat steps, until you can't taste the pseudo anymore. The pseudo
has a bitter taste to it.. Now, make sure that you filter the liquid
through coffee filters until the liquid is completely clear.
When you have achieved this, boil it down til it's real low and put
on medium heat.....continue cooking it down, until your pseudo
starts drying out, then finish with a blow dryer... Remember not to
burn your pseudo.... Scrape the powder into a small pile, and put
into another washed out Gatorade jug. Then add Methanol.... You'll
notice that a binder comes out in the methanol, but was clear in
the water. Siphon, and filter, til this is clear......I use about 8
bottles of Heet brand methanol for every 4000 pills worth of powder.
Again, filter til clear, then put on stove and boil.....this time,
use a fan to blow on the top of your glass bowl to make sure it
doesn't spill over and catch fire.....Do the same thing that you
did with the first batch, low heat, and blow dry.....Now you'll
have pure Pseudo.....The reason for the water pull, is to make sure
you remove all the wax, because the wax is completely soluble in
methanol. I forgot to mention, that when using the water, make sure
it is ICE cold. Then, the methanol will bring out the last binder
which is soluble in water. Step 2 coming up, but I have to run.
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-15-1999 01:20 PM
also, don't forget to use Visonware brand glass containers......they
can withstand the heat
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-15-1999 03:31 PM
Methhead, Are 1-pheudo 60mg pills OK for this step? or should I soak
the red off some pdeudo-HCL. And can I scale down some, like say 1000 30gm
reds? Thanks, Slick
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the-madd-hatter Hive Bee |
posted 05-15-1999 06:14 PM
too get the red off use ether and water in a large glass or a ball mason
jar put pills in with 50 50 water and ether ,,,slush for just a min the
red will come out,,filter 3 times and there u go.remember dont slush for
too long if your in a hurry use all water ,,,its quick soo watch out then
put the honey in a coffe filter and suspend it in air with 3 rubberbands
soo your hand dont get burned put the blow dryer on it and your honey will
dry good.
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-15-1999 08:28 PM
you can always scale down.....just remember that 1000 60's, will give
you 1 ounce of honey, at a 50% yield.......I usually get a 75%
yield since i've perfected it......
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-15-1999 08:44 PM
step 2:..... okay, now you should have your pseudo ready to
go......just remember the ratios that I give you..okay...now to
make the push/pull......the best thing about it, is the fact that
since it's enclosed, there is no smell and the process only takes
an hour or so.......take 2 2.5 gallon plastic gas cans....tape them
together with duct tape , so that the can sit side by side.
Next, take the nozzles from the the gas cans and attach them
together.....usually, I cut the end off of one, and stick the other
into it. then I hot glue them together, to seal them. so then you
attach them back onto the cans. this allows water from one side, to
enter into the other side. Make sure that you screw them back on
tight, and that your seal is air tight, so that when you stand them
up on their ends, water and/or air does not leak out......Next, take
the can on the right side and attach a clear pvc tubing onto the
air inlet of the gas can. This you use to run into a sink, or
shower, or empty container, cuz sometimes iodine water will get
pushed out from the reaction. Make sure you use a hose clamp and hot
glue to secure it tightly. Next, take the can on the left, and
attach a clear, BRAIDED, hose to the air inlet. This is the hose
that will be attached to the stopper on the flask. It has to
be braided, so that it won't collapse when the heat and pressure
build up on the final rxn phase. Make sure that you use a hose
clamp, and some hot glue to attach, cuz you don't want it to come
loose. once this is down, fill one of the gas with 4 1/4 gallons
of distilled water. Then stand the gas cans on end, so that the air
inlets are up, and the U connection you made with the spouts are
on the bottom. Attaching the hose to the stopper, can be a bit
tricky. I use a threaded pvc connector. PVC won't deteriorate from
the acids, or the heat. There's a special name for the type of
connector I use, so it would be best if I go find out what it is
and let you know, cuz the way it's threaded, it won't get pushed
out of the stopper. You can build this setup for around 30 american
dollars from parts at home depot. I shall return later with the
name. Anyways, after you've connected the hose to the stopper,
you're almost ready to go. The reason you have distilled water in
the cans, is so that you can create a pressure. The push comes
from the contents forcing out oxygen, and the pull comes from a
complete hydrogen state, and after the final rxn, it tries
to "breathe" back in oxygen. Use distilled water, cuz sometimes the
pull is so hard, that it actually sucks water, back into the flask.
Back soon with step 3.
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Tweaky
Bird Hive Bee |
posted 05-15-1999 08:47 PM
Plain acetone will get the red off too. Takes like 1-2 hours though, with
lots of shaking.
[The last 2 times I have posted I have hit the enter key once and
gotten 2 entries posted (what the hell?)]
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the-madd-hatter Hive Bee |
posted 05-15-1999 10:05 PM
hey tweaky bird get your pills out,,,put them in a ball,,,mason jar,,,put
20%ether in and dis water shake ,,,,then filter of with water and your
ready too go ok,,,,.cheeeeper that way..tell me what u got then
ok..
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-15-1999 10:24 PM
Methhead, Home Depot will get a visit from me tommorrow, Im stoaked! As
far as the other post about removing the red, I have no problem with that,
I was asking which pills to start with because the 60mg seem to have a
binder that is hard to get rid of oppossed to the reds that dont, but
thanks for the reply. Methhead Ill be looking for your next post. No
fumes, this is killer! Thanks, Slick
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-15-1999 11:56 PM
slick:....ohhhhh......see, where I live, you can buy bottles of 120
count 60mg pseudo pills. They are an off brand, not
walmart bought....they run 25 american dollars a bottle, and don't
contain extra binders..... just wax, and methyl cellulose......
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store
owner dude unregistered
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posted 05-16-1999 12:09 AM
sat methhead say i have a ppound of pure pseudo just laying around my
store soo if thats the case what now,,,,,hummmmmmmmmm
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the-madd-hatter Hive Bee |
posted 05-16-1999 02:17 AM
im in meth chat in microsoft chat form 7 too 1am 7 days ,,,anyone welcome
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the-madd-hatter Hive Bee |
posted 05-16-1999 04:35 AM
ok methhead is the water pseudo or is the stuuf on the bottom pseudo,,,i
let it settle and there is stuff on the bottom and my water still taste
like pseudo i just want too do this rite and you are the one helping us
soo whats up.
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-16-1999 12:52 PM
The water contains the psuedo.....siphon off the water, and filter it
til it's clear... then the water will contain two things..... Methyl
Cellulose, and Pseudo-Ephedrine.... But both are highly soluble in
water, thats why it'll appear clear.......after you boil this down,
and dry it out, you add the methanol to get out the methyl
cellulose... the cellulose is not soluble in methanol, but the
pseudo still is.........
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-16-1999 12:55 PM
okay ladies and germs, I have to leave for a day or
two....business.....but I'll be back with the rest......I'll try to get
at a computer where i'm at.....if not, i'll see you
then.....
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fzr96 Hive Bee
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posted 05-16-1999 02:56 PM
ok when i was deaming of push and pull it pushed but there was no final
pull reaction the water pushed into the second jug but never pulled back
into the first jug all that happened is it stopped pushing i let cook for
4 hours methhead can you help me out here i folowed your instructions do
you have any thoughts on why it neverdid the final reaction id appreciate
any help thanx
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-16-1999 05:47 PM
Methhead, What diameter braided hose did you use and how long? or does
it matter? Just got back from home depot and Im ready to get started. I
really want to thank you for going thru this again. I think once your
perfected method is compiled and complete in detail it should earn a spot
on Rodium's page. Good Work! Slick
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the-madd-hatter Hive Bee |
posted 05-16-1999 07:21 PM
methhead your the man guy. i got back some good huney ,and im ready for
the rest guy .if this works out for bigger batches ill send u a mail order
bride wrapped in china;s best,,,psuedo,,,now thats funny ,,,,see u in a
cuppllleee of days,,, rock on,,,,.
***********the-hatter out*****************
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the-madd-hatter Hive Bee |
posted 05-16-1999 07:23 PM
dammm i think the fummes got too my head cat spell
good,hehehehehehehehe
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buzzcat Hive
Bee |
posted 05-17-1999 06:27 AM
what is the best RP/I/E/dH20 ratio for the push-pull? tried and true
responses only please
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buzzcat Hive
Bee |
posted 05-17-1999 06:28 AM
what is the best RP/I/E/dH20 ratio for the push-pull? tried and true
responses only please
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toast Hive Bee
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posted 05-17-1999 07:01 AM
Allright, well I'm not a chemist (as many of you already know) but it
seems the major advantage is it requires no expensive glass ware, no heat
(well, Rhodium's said this "Slight external heat may need to be applied to
the champagne bottle if there is not enough 'push'. Only
experimentation will tell..."), but it looks great...
thanks, toast
AHH! not meth chemistry... please, no!!!
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-17-1999 03:52 PM
okay, I'm back....... Step 3:....to answer a couple questions real
quick, fzr96.....it shouldn't have cooked for 4 hours......only about 1
to 1 1/2 hours......and if it never pulled, then it was never
done........Here, this might help answer the questions...... I use a
4000ml vacuum, or filter flask, cuz it has a nipple on the side. I
attach a clear hose to this nipple, with a hose clamp, and pinch the
hose closed with a pair of vise grips. Then I'm ready to get
started. Here's the ratio..... take whatever amount of E you have,
and match it with I. Then divide the amount of E you have, and
that's how much R you need to use. My teacher told me though, that
if you were to make less than an ounce of honey, you have to use half
the amount of R, instead of 1/3. I don't know though, cuz I've never
done less than 4 ounces. So, if it's 4 ounces, i should have 240
grams E, 240 grams I, and 80 grams of R. Take the flask, and first dump
in the R. Then, dump in the E. Add 3 small capfuls of distilled
water. If you're using re-used R, then add a small bump of hydrogen
peroxide. Okay, now this part is the best. Add in the I, but be
sure to hurry up and stopper the flask. Then use duct tape to wrap
around the stopper and neck of flask, to ensure it doesn't pop off on
you. Now, pick up the flask and stir the contents. Sometimes it's
quick, and sometimes it's not, but the contents inside should start
getting liquidy. If it happens quick, the contents will appear to
start to grow. Shake more, in order to calm it down, cuz you don't
want a fast reaction. You should notice that the water is pushing,
and air maybe coming out the right side gas can. Keep stirring and
shaking till the entire contents are liquidy. If you look inside the
flask, you'll notice tiny little sprinkles everywhere in the mix.
This is caused by the I reacting with the R, and creating Hydriodic
acid. Keep your eye on it. You'll notice that at first, you have
to stir the contents to calm it down. Then after about 15 minutes,
it calms down on its own. Then, you have to stir to keep the
reaction going. Let this stirring go on for about half an hour or so.
Then, get a large stainless steel stock pot, and one of those
portable electric stoves. Make sure you use the low burning
side.... I went ahead and tested my reaction heat by getting a candy
thermometer, and placing the stock pot on the stove and turning it
on, I've noticed that you don't ever want your heat to get higher
than 180 degrees, and that you should start cooking at 150
degrees... Test your stove out before you cook, and look at the
dial on the stove, as to where the certain degrees are. Now, place
the stock pot on the stove, at 150 degrees, and place the flask in the
pot. Pick up the flask every few minutes and keep stirring,
replacing the flask back in the pot. After about half an hour of this,
(making it 1 hour total cook time), turn up the heat to 180 degrees
and keep the stirring process up. You'll notice that the contents
will get real liquidy, and a yellow film will be inside. The mix
will look like it wants to literally grow inside the flask. After a
few more shakes, let it go, you'll notice that more air and
water will get pushed out of the gas can and the reaction will get
violent. At this stage, I usually throw a towel over the top of the
flask, cuz I've had accidents before, like the hose coming out of the
stopper and contents get sprayed everywhere. When the push/pull is a
rockin away, then unplug the stove and let it go. When the pushing
has stopped, check the flask. The contents should have grown, and
filled the entire flask, and a swirling green/white smoke should
fill the flask. If this didn't happen, then it's not done. Plug back
in the stove, and let it go. This final reaction, is what turns
your E into Honey. What happens, is the contents reach a totally
hydrogen state. The last of the I has turned into Hydriodic acid and
all the oxygen gets pushed out of the flask. This is where you get
the pull from...Cuz the hydrogen state combined with heat, creates a
pressurized vacuum state. After this final reaction has happened, let
the flask cool down, and every 2 minutes, stir the contents. You do
this, because when you stir up the contents, you make sure that more
E gets turned into Honey. Then when the flask has cooled down to a warm
state, keep the nipple hose pinched, and release the vice grips.
Place a funnel into the hose, and add distilled water to the
funnel, then unpinch the hose and let the water into the flask. Let
air get in through the hose cuz if you don't, then as soon as the
water hits the inside of the flask, the vacuum will pick up and suck
water from the push/ pull. Add more distilled water and remove the
duct tape and stopper. Shake the flask around, and pour the contents
into a heavy visionware bowl. Add more distilled water to the flask,
to clean it out, and add to the visionware. Next, place bowl on the
stove, and put on high heat. Get a plastic spoon, and wash with
distilled water, to use to stir the mix. Place a fan next to the
stove to use to cool the bowl down. Stir the contents to a boil,
and remove from heat. Turn the fan on, onto the bowl, and let cool
down a bit. You'll notice that all of your R has dropped to the
bottom of the bowl, and it's ready to filter. You should have a
golden colored liquid. Filter, until all the R is out of the liquid,
and place into a rubbermaid "server" jug. I'll be back with the rest
in a bit........THE FINAL STEPS>>>
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-17-1999 03:56 PM
buzzcat......ratios go .... .... .... E//equal amount of I//
1/3 R// and a capful of distilled water for every ounce of E. Use
the cap from the gallon jug of distilled water.
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-17-1999 03:57 PM
example would be.... ... ... ...240 grams E/ 240 grams I/ 80
grams R/ and ...four capfuls of water.
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buzzcat Hive
Bee |
posted 05-17-1999 09:04 PM
thanks for the ratio info methead also wanted to add that those 2 1/2 gal
clorine jugs and a 2 ft. flexible radiator hose are a good substitute for
the gas cans dream on
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toast Hive Bee
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posted 05-18-1999 02:02 PM
methhead, Forgive my uhh... ignorance (I guess) but theres a few things in
the push pull I don't understand, well one thing actually, then a
suggestion.
Ok in step 2, you say to use 2 2.5 gallon gas tanks, then you say to
fill ONE of the gas cans with 4 1/4 gallons of dH2O, do you mean 1 gallon
(4 1/4) or 4.25/2 (2.125 in each tank), because if its a 2.5 gallon tank,
obviously you can't put 4.25 gallons in it...
Also, for the stopper and hose thing, couldn't you just put a glass
tube through the hole in the stopper, then attatch the hose to this tube
with a hose clamp?
Anyway, you've got a great METHod going here, and I appreciate your
post...
thanks, toast
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-18-1999 05:15 PM
toast...if you read carefully, you're supposed to attach the two cans
together.... this creates a five gallon container, connected by the
two spouts. And about the amounts, you're right, I was
miscalculating. fill it so water is just under halfway on both
sides. As far as the glass tube goes, this would be ok, but I wouldn't
dare chance it......if the tube break under pressure, then you're
fucked. Trust me, I've been doing this toooooo damn long.... that's
why i'm giving the world my recipe........for every meth lab they
close, I will personally see to it that 6 more
get opened..............................
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-18-1999 05:17 PM
oops, sorry, forgot......that's 2 and 1/4 gallons, not 4 and 1/4
gallons......
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-18-1999 05:49 PM
Methhead, Sorry to bug ya bud but how about the answer to my above
question? want to do the right, ya know. Ever find out what pvc fittings
you used? Ready ta go just need info, Thanks, Slick
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-18-1999 05:49 PM
Methhead, Sorry to bug ya bud but how about the answer to my above
question? want to do the right, ya know. Ever find out what pvc fittings
you used? Ready ta go just need info, Thanks, Slick
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Mr.Sandman Hive
Bee |
posted 05-18-1999 06:37 PM
not meaning to waste space here.....sorry all you killer bees out
there....just had to say that.....methead is the top bee in my
books.....hes got the volume cranked up real loud in my dreams and im
almost waking up......keep it real.....sorry bout the wasted post just had
to make a toast....!!
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toast Hive Bee
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posted 05-19-1999 04:22 PM
well, perhaps home depot can expect a visit from me also soon (for a
totally unrelated reason), as I was able to find a 4000 mL filtering flask
(also, for a totally unrelated reason)
did you ever find the name of that PVC fitting?
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toast Hive Bee
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posted 05-19-1999 04:37 PM
Also, methhead, could you recomend a type of oven to use (I know it seems
silly), perhaps give me a price on one. And another thing, do you put
water in the bottom of the pot, I'm assuming not. These may seem like
stupid questions but like slick said, something like "I want to do the
right thing, ya know?"
and I do, I'd rather come accross as stupid, than fail completely
because I forgot to ask... (of course none of this info is for the synth,
I'm into baking cakes and cookies (the oven) and I'd hate to fuck up a
cake)
those flasks are real handy in measuring cooking oil and stuff 
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toast Hive Bee
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posted 05-20-1999 07:55 PM
methhead, sorry to bug you, or anyone, I feel like I am by posting so
much, but...I too have little chemistry knowledge (you said the same about
yourself in a different push/pull post)... are the final steps all that
important? perhaps you have an e-mail where I can contact your privately
instead of bugging all the killer bees? thanks...
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-20-1999 08:14 PM
OOOOOOHHHHH methhead where are you?????????? Dont run out on us, Whats
up? Slick
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Z28 unregistered |
posted 05-24-1999 03:49 PM
The I that is used in this recipe, is that Iodine Crystals? If not what
type of iodine is used?
Z28
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-24-1999 04:39 PM
Methhead, I've been seeing alot of miss conseption by some of our bees,
it would be real nice if you straightened these folks out that put there
faith in your method. View the Attn, methhead thread and look at the site.
This guy is prowd to share your theory but has his appaeratus all wrong. I
had a hard time getting you to even post because nobody showed any
interest. Now we are and your gone. Not to mention Ive got apile of shit
from homedepot Im not sure what to do with. Slick
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-24-1999 05:31 PM
okay, i'm back.......So sorry bees, but duty calls, and I keep things
interstate.....that way it's harder for local jurisdictions to do
anything........one drawback, is that interstate means
Federal........But just remember, that no matter how long I am
gone, I'll always return here.........
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-24-1999 05:48 PM
Methhead, Glad to see your back I was worried, now please give me some
answers. Slick
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-24-1999 06:14 PM
FINAL STEPS>>>>>>>okay boys and ghouls, yes, this
is the most important part, and if you follow everything right, you
won't even need to wash the shit......trust me, my honey has never
needed a washing YET!.....almost never leaves a residue in the
pipe.....trust me... where i live.....i'm just about number one in
quality......and i'll be chatting to TOAST about
pics.............okay........ put the yellow colored liquid into
the rubbermaid server jug from wal-mart..... this is acid/honey
water.......put in a small layer of ice (bag of ice bought from any
store, cuz it's allllll distilled), then add an equal portion of
Colemans fuel..... if you don't use ice, you're going to get
a volcano eruption of lye/acid/colemans all over the
place.......when the lye hits the acid, it'll heat up and create alot
of pressure......the ice keeps this from happening, until you
shake up the container.. next, add about 1/4 can of Red Devil
Lye... in mine, it takes about a 1/2 can...... but you don't want to
overkill the lye or you'll lose everything.......now screw on the
pop-top lid, and shake, with small towel over the top....just in case
of leakage.... the jug should heat up and expand.....let settle for
a second, and undo the pop-top to let out pressure, close, and
repeat...... add more lye as you go along, until you get a very
strong cat urine/ammonia smell..... when your nostrils have received
this little message, it's time to let the mix settle, and
siphon........take a large gatorade bottle, and poke a hole in the
screw top.... next, wash out the bottle, and cap thoroughly, using
distilled water........ next, siphon the colemans, into a
filtered funnel, into the gatorade bottle.......now, you should have
one gatorade bottle, with honey/colemans fuel in it........add
an equal amount of distilled water to this.... then, shake the
contents up..always remember to cover the hole in the top with your
finger when shaking.......turn the bottle over, holding the hole
closed, and let settle, then with your other hand, grab a 3-way
pool test strip and place over a shot glass, then let a small amount of
water run over the ph part of the strip....the color should be a
violet blue........lots of honey in there folks......so, turn the
jug upright again, and remove cap......next, we have to "push" the
honey into the water.... to do this, get some muriatic acid, and
a small bottle with a dropper type top on it. fill this with
muriatic, and add a small squirt into the bottle.......if you look
at the water when you do this, you'll see the acid fall to the
bottom, and quickly surface. But, with the acid, you'll see ribbons
of honey stay in the water........cover the hole with your finger
again, and shake..... turn the bottle over, holding the hole
with your finger, and test again.....keep repeating this, until the
ph strip turns a reddish-pink color......this is the ph level you
need to keep it at.....if the strip goes yellow, that means there's
too much acid and there's nothing you can do about it... at least
not if you haven't saved anything in your shot glass......just take the
water from the shot glass, and add it to the jug, then
retest.......if the strip is okay, then replace a clean visionware bowl
on the stove, and drain the water into it.....bee careful not to let
the colemans fuel fall into it, or your honey will be good,
but tainted......if some does get through, take lighter, and light
the top of the water, and the colemans will burn away........ now,
turn it up to a boil, and wait till you see it "cracking back". you
should have the fan on it, to help it go faster. When it starts to
"crack back" alot, remove from heat, and place the bowl in ice
water.... WARNING.....make sure its a Corning VisionsWare
bowl....it's the only glass bowl that I know of that can go from
extreme heat and cold......other glass bowls would shatter upon even
touching the ice cold water..... after putting the bowl in ice water,
make sure you get a blow dryer, and blow air into the bowl to help
it dry......if it's still too liquidy after 5 minutes, then replace
on the heat for a few more minutes and repeat.. if you're too afraid
of hurting the honey, then just use the blow dryer to dry the rest
of the way..........well folks, all I can do to help you, is answer
questions, take some pictures, and MAKE THE VIDEO..... wonder if I
should charge?....doubt it..... knowledge is free.......
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-24-1999 06:29 PM
Methhead, Please send me the same drawing your sending toast so Im sure
I got this right. Thanks Slick
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-24-1999 06:34 PM
according to your other post, you do have it right.....connection on
bottom, inlet and outlet on top.
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-24-1999 06:46 PM
OOps! richard@98rockmail.com Did I forget something? Slick
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-24-1999 06:57 PM
Methhead, Void last message, lets keep this on your thread, Im going
crazy trying to move all around. And Toast, I look forward to your
graghics once correct, sorry bud. Slick out PS. MH please answer my
previous questions.
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-24-1999 10:42 PM
slick......sorry....don't have those names yet, went outta town, but
I'll have those names, and more info later......... I'm trying to
make this as easy as possible I'm no chemist, and don't wish to be
one... but I know how to do what I do, and if I say that I'm one of
the best, and this sounds egotistical, then so be it......but it
is also the truth........I've always been interested in quality,
after all, people should get what they pay for......and it took
painstaking time and money to perfect some of what is THIS cities BEST
honey... I've searched in other states for the same, and have found
nothing but crap........ I enjoy teaching this to you all, for
one reason.........wellll, two reasons....... for one, KNOWLEDGE IS
POWER, and I seen an inscription somewhere once........it read like
this......."for every meth lab you shut down, I will personally open 6
more"......so I said to myself, the more people who create this,
just floods the whole damn system up, and keeps the gov going
crazy......... I can't stand the B.S. people have to face, just
because they like to get high...... It takes the stress out of peoples
lives. They can let us kill ourselves with alcohol and tobacco, but
god forbid that we should party with things that they can't tax,
or control........sorry for the ramblings, but I thought everyone
should know the top 2 reasons as too why I am just freely
giving away one of the best recipes to come along.. My teacher was a
dumbass for one reason, and remember this.......his honey was okay,
but still was crap because.......HE LIKED SHORTCUTS........NEVER
USE SHORTCUTS...... your honey will never be as good as mine if you
do...............but all the same, to each his own, and now i'll quit
my stupid rambling........Thanks to Toast, and Slick.. hopefully,
you'll get my recipe right, and help give to others.......
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slick Hive Bee
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posted 05-24-1999 11:04 PM
Wow! Some powerful words my bee friend, You must be 1/2 lite too. Lets
talk when where
straight.@%^%$(*&^(*&^^$^&$&*%)(**_}()(&%^&%*&^*%*&^)(*()*^(*)*(()&)(&(&%$^30980-
this is enqrypted for the simplest Meth. recipe ever
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SLICK
OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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methhead Hive
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posted 05-25-1999 01:37 AM
fortunatley Slick, I've never touched the stuff......personally, I have
an addiction to painkillers........Vicodin, Lortab, it's allllll
Hydrocodone, and this is my ONLY vice......I don't even drink......and
unfortunatly, I haven't had a pill in a
week.....hehehhehe.......maybe this explains the rampage.......but
then again, I feel this way no matter what.........
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methhead Hive
Bee |
posted 05-25-1999 04:13 AM
sorry guys, but once again, I have to take a small trip, so I'll be
gone for a day or two. But I think I'll come back with polaroid
snapshots this time........Toast?.....maybe you wanna upload them
to the xoom site?
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toast Hive Bee
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posted 05-25-1999 06:45 AM
I'd be happy to do that methhead... it'd be great!, i'll add a little
"picture by methhead" blurb in the corner too...
one question, two actually, kinda three...
do you know when you've added enough NaOH by when it smells like
urine/ammonia? is there another way to tell?
and, how many layers are there in the last gatorade jug, 2 or 3? is the
water layer also the acid layer, or does the acid go into the coleman
layer, or is the coleman layer seperate from the acid and the water layer?
thanks for the info dude...
oh yeah, can I use a pyrex glass bowl, have you ever tried this?
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